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Christian - Muslim Dialogue, Nigeria, Quran / Bible, Perfect Love and Justice


3/16/19   Hazeez  (see video HERE)


Halfway through the conversation, it felt like I was over my head.  I had asked a young man at a McDonalds if he would be willing to have a conversation about his beliefs.  He turned out to be Hazeez, from Nigeria, and very passionate and articulate about Islam.  The odds were stacked against having a productive conversation, mainly due to the lack of time - at the start he told me his time was limited, I knew I had an upcoming doctor’s appointment, and then we were politely interrupted by two 80-something women from Indiana who had ended up hopelessly lost in downtown Chicago.  And here we were, a Christian and a Muslim, trying to sort out our differences.

And what are our differences?  Hazeez has had many such conversations with Christians as I have had with Muslims, so both of us knew that the heart of our differences revolves around the person of Jesus Christ – human prophet or Son of God; creation or Creator?  Hazeez began to walk me through many verses – both from the Quran and the Bible – that he feels support his position.  I have a horrible memory for details so I didn’t stand a chance for a scripture-based rebuttal.  Besides, I told him, many sincere scholars on both sides of the Christian-Muslim debate have tried for centuries to convince each other of their positions without success, so who are we to think we can do so in a short conversation?    

But then I asked if he would like to know why we Christians are so adamant that Jesus is God in the flesh?  Why is it that we can never give in or compromise on this core tenant of our beliefs?

The answer, I told him, is based on something that both Christians and Muslims would agree on – God’s goodness, His holiness, His perfection, and His infinite glory.  If God is perfectly good, then all aspects of His being would be perfectly good, including His love and His justice.  But what happens when these attributes conflict with each other?  How then to deal with us humans, who have sinned against God by breaking His commands?  How can God treat guilty sinners with perfect love and perfect justice at the same time?  His perfect love would have to result in infinite forgiveness and mercy, and His perfect justice would have to result in nothing less than infinite punishment for our sins against an infinitely holy God.

According to Islam and other works-based religions, God would have to compromise both His love and His justice by allowing us some mercy if we can somehow pay for it with some good works or religious deeds.  His love wouldn’t be infinitely perfect, for it comes with a price tag.  And His justice wouldn’t be perfectly complete, for it can be bought with a bribe of good works.

But in Jesus, God perfectly demonstrates both His attributes of love and justice.  He Himself makes the perfect sacrifice of love at the cross, satisfying His perfect justice at the same time.  Paul describes this in Romans 3 – “he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.”

Hazeez showed me several passages from both the Quran and the Bible which state that God deserves all worship and glory and will not share it with another, and of course I agree because He is God and we are not.  God is the author and finisher of salvation, and in so doing He receives all the glory which He alone deserves, and no man or created being can claim a part of no matter how many good works we might do.  If salvation depends on human effort, God’s glory is compromised as we boast in our own efforts and our own righteousness.

Where in Islam, I ask, do we find such perfect love and perfect justice?  Where do we find the an infinitely perfect and holy God, deserving of all glory, as we read in Revelation 5 – “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb (Jesus) be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”

Thanks Hazeez for allowing me to record our conversation.  It can be seen HERE  

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