11/21/09 Carl, about 35
While grocery shopping I started a conversation with Carl, who confidently stated he will go to heaven "because I'm a good person and I believe in God and Jesus". "Well if you are good enough to get to heaven, then what did Jesus die for?" Carl answered, "Hmmm, I'll have to think about that..." I prompted him - "Jesus died for...." "Our sins! Yeah, that's right" Carl answered. I continued, "Yet you believe you are good enough to go to heaven. Did Jesus die for YOUR sins?" Carl - "It was what Adam did in the Garden of Eden, and we are all under a curse..." "But what about you personally? Have YOU sinned?" "Oh I see, have I personally sinned? I guess I have." I reminded Carl that Jesus died because of our sins, not because of our goodness. Is Carl saved? I don't know. Would he be able to accurately share faith in Christ? I don't think so, unless God grows the seeds of truth that have been planted in his life.